Sunday, July 5, 2009

The Dream



I normally don't remember my dreams, but then this was no normal dream.

For one thing, it didn't come to me in my own bed in the stillness of the night. It invaded the nightmare my life had become during my first week of combined chemo/radiation treatment. I hadn't been able to eat or drink for two days and was lying in bed in the Cancer Day Care hooked up to an IV pumping cisplatin into my veins.

When I fell asleep.

And discovered myself on the banks of the Thames River in London during the time of the Reformation. Before me, filling the entire span of the river, a giant five story stage was being pulled down the length of the Thames by teams in four row boats, thick ropes attaching them to the stage.

I was strangely aware that I was dreaming while at the same time experiencing this ancient time as all too real.

On the stage the entire pageantry of that time was being played out each on its own different level. On the ground floor of the stage, peasants were busy tilling the fields, caring for livestock and dancing to the sound of a flute.

On the next level shop keepers were hawking their wares, keeping their books, manufacturing their various products.

On the middle level the clergy were preaching and praying and shaking their incense.

Above them the nobles were feasting and jousting fighting off the enemies of the realm.

While high above them all, the King sat on his throne laughing and waving to the vast crowds who lined the river banks.

"This can't be real," I recall thinking in the midst of my dream. "A stage this size would act like a vast sail and could never be pulled down river by row boats. Even modern boats with powerful engines would never be able to keep such a thing property aligned. Not to mention upright."

And then I woke up, marveling at the capacity of the human brain to create such a vision in such detail. The dream was rich in browns and grays, I could feel the breeze, smell the pungent aroma of the river water at my feet.

Jeannette Stgermain's blog
has a three part series on dreams, and it got me thinking about this one.

Does this strange dream have meaning? Is anyone out there into dream interpretation? Insights anyone? Of have you had similar dreams, or even more interesting ones you'd care to share?

38 comments:

stregata said...

Well, I'm sure I don't know what meaning is behind your dream, but I know I will be checking back to find out if anyone else knows!!
I usually forget my dreams instantaneously. I do remember a few nightmares from way back - now, isn't that strange?
Hope you have a good day, Barry! Sending hugs and healing thoughts!!

Natalie said...

All the world is a stage, Barry, and we all play our part.
Do not underestimate the strength of the human spirit.
Brown means earth, the everyday ~ your grounding...e.g job ,family, money etc
Grey is not crash hot, but it is kind of the blahs, seek to move toward some happy colours.
Try not to dwell in the fear, you will be o.k.
I believe wholeheartedly that this is so.
Concentrate on the colours of the rainbow, especially the colour blue, which signifies the healing of the throat chakra.
Then surround yourself in a bubble of white light and gold or purple , or both....you will be safe. xx♥

Anvilcloud said...

That's remarkable. I often daydream that King Henry VIII time travels here, and I begin show him some of the wonders of this age.

Barry said...

If you are in the mood for a hilarious time, genuine laugh out loud time, visit Anvilcloud's blog today and read his Council letters post.

I read it yesterday and I'm still laughing.

Queenmothermamaw said...

I studied a little about dreams in my classes studying holistic medicine. Here is what I remember about dreams. No matter who you see as the central figure, the king here, a dream is always about you. Your person can take on anyone that you admire, see strength in or any other characteristic that you see in that person. This dream suggests that you feel your are on display and part of you wants to share and deep down there is a feeling of being on display. Do you remember how you felt in the dream? Was it a good or a bad feeling? Did you feel happy or sad? That is a key to our dreams. Sometimes you only can remember how you felt immediately on awaking from the dream. At peace, upset, worried, afraid. That feeling sometimes goes away quickly or will linger for a time after waking. The intellect has nothing to do with dreams. It is the subconscious that drives our dreams. Sometimes the conscious and subconscious are at odds with each other. Please don't make any big decisions based on this. Someone else who studied dreams may have something else to say.
Blessings to a brave man
QMM

jeannette stgermain said...

Hi Barry,
I couldn't sleep -too much coffee - I'll write you an email about your dream later - but there are right off hand already several telling things.
The time of the Reformation was a big change, when Luther pushed for the Bible being able to be read by commoners.
This is a big time of change for you, where several (physical) things are being "exposed" (in a good way - coming out in the open).
Five is the number of grace. Four is the number of rule.
As rich and detailed your dream is - I would expect that, because knowing you from the stories you tell on the blog.
Now I'm going back to bed and try to have some dreams of my own:)

Barry said...

Interesting QueenMotherMawmaw.

I was aware that I was dreaming and was feeling in awe of the capacity of the human mind to create such a vision in such realistic detail.

Awe would definitely be the operative word here. Astonished might be another.

Sara Williams said...

Maybe you were dreaming about a former life?

I do believe in dreams and the messages they bring, draw strength from them.

You are doing really well Barry. I think about you all the time and hope you get well soon. You are amazing x

Chef E said...

Not to seem like an off person, but I do believe that some form of dreams like this come from the possibility of an old soul, or energy that has be born into us...using their strengths and experiences (if we recognize them) to help us in our life quest...I have often dreamed I am skating...I am so clumsy, but when I have this reoccurring dream of being on ice...I am graceful and can do anything I think possible, so it has driven me to do things otherwise I would not, sort of push myself...this is not always the case, but our fears, love, and other things are put to test...and come out in our dreams...

I laugh at myself sometimes, and tell people that I am a rough and tough reincarnated dance hall madame from the old west...with a love for life and whiskey...because of my dreams...hope that is not too off the wall :)

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Linda said...

I guess we can conclude that you are dreamy Barry and perhaps, with all your medical knowledge we could find you a spot on Grey's Anatomy.

Tabor said...

I know nothing about interpreting dreams but you said you were in awe that something like this could be created in such detail...maybe this is your 'encouraging' side telling you that the book you are thinking about writing is a good thing?

Sydney said...

Wow,t his was just magnificent to read and to imagine you having! I am not big on dreaming, I think so much during the day, I hope for blank blackness at night, but I have never had anything like you describe ever occur in a dream. I was thinking what the 5 layers and what was occurring on each meant to what we call reality here -- many states of consciousness or maybe that there are various states of being all happening at once. I liked what Natalie had to say. I think it's interesting that you were aware you were dreaming too.

More importantly, I"m sorry sorry ugh sorry to hear that you have not been eating for days and the chemo combo has been nightmarish for you. Crap. How you manage to write so beautifully when you feel like this is amazing to me.

nina at Nature Remains. said...

Barry,
Thank you for stopping by my blog. I'm glad my experiences outdoors are something you recall fondly, and can relive while you're not perhaps as able to get out and about.
I hope you'll visit often--and I wish you good health and endurance for your treatments.

Si's blog said...

Sounds like triple X hard core to me. But then every thing does.

Goto: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=evolutionary-enigma-dream and http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=when-do-dreams-begin-09-04-16

Dreams are important. All those little memory files need to be organized and placed in the right folders.

Bookish said...

Hmm... This reminds me of someone I knew who had a stroke. They dreamed that the furnace in the hospital was broken and the part was missing to fix it. The thing is, the furnace wasn't broken, it was all in their mind. I know you didn't have a stroke (thank goodness!) but maybe the boat you saw was your body?

Zaroga said...

I rarely remember my dreams.. and then only strange bits and pieces are remembered.

Irish Cottage Dreams said...

Wow Barry!

That was a very interesting dream!
I wonder if you will have a continuation
of it another time?

Big hugs to you~kimme

Patience-please said...

I think the Jungian interpretation calls for making each of the characters in a dream be you.
Water is usually the subconscious, and on it played out (literally) all of the facets that make up you.

I just love the image of the King waving happily to the crowds.

Dreams are treasures.

nollyposh said...

i hate to sound like a clique Barry, But...

"All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players;
They have their exits and their entrances,
And one man in his time plays many parts..."

Perhaps you are experiencing 'Lucid Dreaming'?
...and therefore it's less about the dream itself and more about your subconscious bubbling up trying to make some sense of things at the moment... ?

Sighhhh and yes it's true that all the world is a stage, no?
...and water is about thy inner worlde 'they' say... so maybe some adventures are afoot? ...Or perhaps at the least, a technique is being presented to you about how to be constructive with thy wandering thoughts while all around thy is mayhem and chaos?

Yes life can be an adventure when you least expect it methinks... Or is that just the way it works for me? X;-)

kenju said...

Lucid dreaming is often a signal that the dream is a past-life memory. The fact that the sights, sounds and smells in your dream were so strong - and you remembered them so strongly indicates that to me. Have you been drawn to that era when studying history or art?

Kaleida Eclectics said...

Well now, without delving into hidden meanings and symbolism all I can say is 'very cool dream'!
Dreams like that do make you wonder about the power of mind and imagination and when they're are as good as that, don't you just want to go back and dream it again?!

Barbara's Spot on the Blog said...

I haven't studied dreams myself but I do believe they are very significant. I wish I knew more but I'll certainly read up on everyone's comments. I believe interpreting dreams is a gift - but sorry I don't have it!

A Scattering said...

I was there! Your words just put me there. I could see the detail, what a wonderful visual.

Kathryn Magendie said...

OH, what a dream - a vivid detailed dream! Makes you wonder. Some people would say "past life" visions....I don't know.

I used to have many more dreams of places that were "long ago and far away" but not in a long time...

how facinating, Barry!

Natalie said...

Interesting dream. I would suggest buying a dream book. I've had many strange dreams usually in times of great stress. I've dreamed about babies with full sets of teeth (when I am pregnant) and I've dreamed of beating up my SIL I don't like, and I've recently dreamed of hurting my mom with all the childish divorce games she is playing with my Dad. Perhaps dreaming is a way of unleashing my frustrations with all of them. ??? Hope you have some good nights to come. =)

willow said...

What an amazingly detailed dream, Barry. I'm very much into dream interpretation. I have a wonderful little chunky paperback dream encyclopedia, that I use quite often. It's surprising how the mind converts our inner thoughts into dreams.

gigi said...

I'm just clueless in the matter of dreams. But I sur enjoyed yours, just felt like was there.
Blessings for a great week!

Neil Bytes said...

Not sure Barry. Sounded like an awesome dream.

Maybe next dream you will be in Ancient Egypt witnessing the building of the pyramids.

Evil Twin's Wife said...

No insight into the dream, but I do like the new look here! Glad to hear things are moving along according to plan!

Butler and Bagman said...

I have loved dreaming for years although I have a sense that I shouldn't try too hard to interpret but just journal them in the spirit that Lewis and Clark journaled their trip into unknown waters. I have grown to have a kind of non-intellectual insight into some of the themes and imagery that my mind presents me while asleep. Recurring images that fit together...I approach dreams like poetry...the dream (or poem) itself is larger than the conscious mind -- which is also why we can't often remember all of them. This was certainly a great dream and I'm glad you captured it. Also glad to see that you are finally getting some focused treatment even though it is probably a miserable experience.

Daria said...

I'm not a big fan of dreams ... my dreams are always too intense.

Your dream appears to have been very vivid and detailed ... maybe the chemo drugs had something to do with it.

Sammi said...

It's very odd what drugs can do to you, isn't it? My mum said when she had radiation therapy she used to have weird dreams about things she couldn't even begin to recognise.

willow said...

Hi Barry, just dropping in to say your new format is really nice. Really cool and clean looking. I like.

PhilipH said...

A dream is so difficult to recall even when I know I have just dreamt of something I really want to remember. It's uncanny that occasionally one can remember a dream.

One that was so vivid I didn't think it was a dream.

Early 1960. Terrible toothache. Dentist said it's an ulcer; can't extract tooth. I pleaded. He said OK, at your own risk!

Gas mask applied. Drifted to sleep. I dreamt I was conducting a large orchestra. Flailing my arms like a madman.

Awoke; apologised to the dentist for being so madly agitated during the extraction. He said I'd not moved a muscle. That dream was so real I was convinced when waking up from the anaesthetic that I'd been thrashing about in the chair.

So strange; so violently strong. Who knows what it all means?

Ruth said...

Barry, I like what others have said for interpretation. It is always about you, and every person in the dream represents something about you (not them). I did a quick google of the meaning of rivers, because I knew they are considered part of the spiritual journey. Here is what this site said:

River Dream Meaning

Psychological Meaning: A river may represent the flow of the life force. In a spiritual sense, it may show your acceptance of divine will and destiny. Instead of struggling against life you ‘go with the flow.’ Crossing a river may symbolise a fundamental change of lifestyle.

Mystical Meaning: Consider your dream in the light of this quotation from Siddhartha by Herman Hesse: ‘But he learned more from the river than Vasudeva could teach him. He learned from it continually. Above all, he learned from it how to listen with a still heart, with a waiting, open soul, without passion, without desire, without judgement, without opinions.’

I like this. And what a very remarkable dream you had. The stage spanning the river and sailing down it!!! Barry, you are something else!

Meghann LittleStudio said...

I do know that chemo is known to cause really messed up dreams in people, so that may have been it's effect when combined with your imagination?
I hope you are feeling better today :)

jeannette stgermain said...

Barry,
I'm finally ready to write some more about your dream - but my outlook express does not work on my computer (that comes up when I click on email. And on your family web page I don't see any place where I can write to you). So if you like to hear some more, my email is castlestgermain(at)hotmail(dot)com.